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CochesTalgoIIMNFD.jpg (152114 bytes)

Composición de coches Talgo II conservada en el museo de Madrid-Delicias. 25/05/2006.

Talgo II cars set preserved at Madrid-Delicias Museum. 25/05/2006.

Manuel Marcos (manueljosemarcosmontero@hotmail.com)



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Composición de coches Talgo II conservada en el museo de Madrid-Delicias. 25/05/2006.

Talgo II cars set preserved at Madrid-Delicias Museum. 25/05/2006.

Manuel Marcos (manueljosemarcosmontero@hotmail.com)



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Matériel historique exposé au musée de Vilanova i la Geltru, Catalogne, Espagne (février 2007)

Photo Christian Fincato dfg@waika9.com



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Matériel historique exposé au musée de Vilanova i la Geltru, Catalogne, Espagne (février 2007)

Photo Christian Fincato dfg@waika9.com



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Matériel historique exposé au musée de Vilanova i la Geltru, Catalogne, Espagne (février 2007)

Photo Christian Fincato dfg@waika9.com



RENFE_Talgo-II_3.jpg (94924 bytes)

Talgo II set preserved at the Railway Museum of Vilanova i La Geltrú (Catalonia).

One can appreciate the low-floor design, together with the substantial width (3.207-10ft6in) of this rolling-stock.

Vilanova i La Geltrú. 2004.

Photo by Juan Coma González (ut444@tranvia.org)(Acknowledgements), from Tranvia.org

Posting and comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr).



RENFE_Talgo-II_4.jpg (37475 bytes)

Interiors of the Talgo II set preserved at the Railway Museum of Vilanova i La Geltrú (Catalonia).

This single-class fleet was marketed as 1st-class accommodation from 1950 to 1970 (Madrid-Hendaye, Madrid-Barcelona, Madrid-Valencia), and then as 2nd-class accommodation from 1970 to 1972 (Madrid-Valencia)

Although seats are arranged in 2+2, the layout seems all but cramped, thanks to the substantial carbody-width (3.207m-10ft6in).

Articulation allows for a very smooth transition between cars, almost seamless, unlike subsequent Talgo generations.

Seats have inspired very much those fitted on Talgo III cars of 1964.

One can see the observation lounge in the background.

This set is seemingly in much better condition than that preserved at Madrid-Delicias.

Vilanova i La Geltrú. 09th May 2004.

Photo by Nacho Rojano (Perruca@tranvia.org)(Acknowledgements), from Tranvia.org

Posting and comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr).



RENFE_Talgo-II_Principe-Pio_1.jpg (41003 bytes)

Talgo II set, seen on its very first day of revenue operation, awaiting departure for Hendaye at Madrid-Principe Pío.

This rolling-stock ran until 14th November 1964 on this line, on a 3-weekly basis. Upon introduction, it cut the whole journey down to 8 hrs on Madrid-Hendaye and 18hrs on Madrid-Paris (using the flagship sleeper "Pyrenées-Côte d'Argent" in France).

Madrid-Principe Pío. 14th July 1950.

Photo from the Archives of the Comunidad de Madrid (Acknowledgements).

Posting and Comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr)



RENFE_Talgo-II_Ribavellosa_1.jpg (57537 bytes)

Since the late-80s, a Talgo II Observation-lounge/end car has remained idle at the Talgo Factory in Ribavellosa.

This car is seen along Talgo 7 cars, then under construction.

Ribavellosa. 17th July 200.

Photo by Marcos Maté (mateluna@euskalnet.net)(Acknowledgements), from Tranvia.org

Posting and comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr).



RENFE_TalgoII_Delicias.jpg (151372 bytes)

RENFE - Spain
Interior of a "Talgo II" trainset (with locomotive 350-002) on display at the National Railway Museum at Madrid Delicias.
Madrid, 17-05-2015

Digital photo by Marco van Uden



TalgoII-1250.jpg (115361 bytes)

RENFE : Talgo II

Coche de servicio. Las composiciones Talgo II, constaban de locomotora, 15 coches intermedios y 1 coche mirador.

Car of service. The compositions Talgo II, consisted of locomotive, 15 intermediate cars and 1 car mirador.

Museo: Vilanova (Barcelona) 5/8/01

Photo: Carlos Pérez Arnau / carlosperez@studio3.es



TalgoII-1251.jpg (115985 bytes)

RENFE : Talgo II

Coche salon.

Car living room.

Museo: Vilanova (Barcelona) 5/8/01

Photo: Carlos Pérez Arnau / carlosperez@studio3.es



TalgoII-1252.jpg (184403 bytes)

RENFE : Talgo II

Coche final de la composicion, salon mirador.

Final car of the composition, living room mirador.

Museo: Vilanova (Barcelona) 5/8/01

Photo: Carlos Pérez Arnau / carlosperez@studio3.es



TalgoII-1253.jpg (128171 bytes)

RENFE : Talgo II

Coche final de la composicion, salon mirador.

Final car of the composition, living room mirador.

Museo: Vilanova (Barcelona) 5/8/01

Photo: Carlos Pérez Arnau / carlosperez@studio3.es



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Railway Museum Vilanova i la Geltrú - Spain
Diesel locomotives and a railcar on display around the turntable at Vilanova museum.
Vilanova i la Geltrú, 11-03-2011

Digital photo by Marco van Uden



Vilanova_Talgo.jpg (149244 bytes)

Railway Museum Vilanova i la Geltrú - Spain
Different coaches of Talgo type II. The last car is a saloon car, with nice view backward of the tracks.
Vilanova i la Geltrú, 11-03-2011

Digital photo by Marco van Uden



Vilanova_VariableGauge.jpg (145885 bytes)

Railway Museum Vilanova i la Geltrú - Spain
Talgo wheelset, capable of operation on both standard and broad gauge.
Vilanova i la Geltrú, 11-03-2011

Digital photo by Marco van Uden



FC-de-Langreo_Talgo-II_1.jpg (61743 bytes)

Probably the most unexpected "Talgo" train so far.

This is a Talgo II set (Design of 1955, by American Car Foundry), more sophisticated than the Design of 1949 (Talgo-ACF) which RENFE used from 1950 to 1972.

This Talgo set was built for the New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad in 1956, and ran on the Shore Line (New York-Boston) from 1957 to around 1960, as a commercial experiment. The core idea was to test various lightweight trains (Talgo, Train X, Aerotrain...), with a view to purchasing 30 to 40 sets of the best-proven type.

Sadly, the sharp downturn in passenger mainline traffic which occured in the late-50s nipped all those bright plans in the bud.

After some years of idleness of various sidings, the whole NH fleet was sold to the Ferrocarril de Langreo (Spain), a private Railway focused on Coal and Iron Ore Trains from Laviana to Gijon (Asturias).

This was the only non-urban Spanish railway built to standard gauge (1435mm-4ft8in), which often led this company to look for second-hand rolling-stock from the US.

The NH fleet consisted in 5 3-car sets. These were bi-directional, unlike the Design of 1949, and were very close to Talgo III of 1964 in many aspects. Both end cars had one wheelset only, whereas the intermediate car had two of these, as current TC7z-706 or AVE-102 40x Cafeteria cars.

The whole NH fleet was shipped to Gijon in late-1964.

Unfortunately, those cars had been designed by ACF for America only, and thus encroached into Talgo Patentes SA rights on Talgo wheelsets in Spain.

So, in order not to pay any royalties to Talgo, the Ferrocarril de Langreo had to look for a substitute system. So, it ordered single-axle, Schienenbus-style trucks from MAN, which one can very easily notice on that pic.

All in all, those second-hand Talgo trains were used well below their potential, taking some 2 hours just to run over 50km of derelict tracks, while DMUs were faster. In 1973, the FC de Langreo was absorbed by FEVE, which rebuilt the Gijon-Laviana line to metric-gauge in 1983.

Most of the fleet was then sold to individuals, who have used them as second homes or for farming.

Only one set was preserved for a while, on some sidings in Gijon. Unfortunately, it wholly went up in smoke in the mid-80s, as an executory for enraged shipyard workers....

This pic was taken at some time in the 70s. Carbodies were already in a declining condition.

Photo by J. Aranguren (Acknowledgements).

Posting and comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr)



FC-de-Langreo_Talgo-II_2.jpg (51866 bytes)

Former Talgo II car (Design of 1955, ACF), previously in operation on the New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad, then on the Ferrocarril de Langreo, now used for residential purposes...

Posada de Llanera (Asturias).

29th August 2005.

Photo by José Manuel Trigos (JMT@tranvia.org) (Acknowledgements).

Posting and comment by P.L.Guillemin (plguillemin@yahoo.fr).



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